Weight cutting: Muay Thai style VS BJJ
The Martial Arts Weight cut. Its big in Muay Thai and MMA but less of an issue in amateur Boxing and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu due to same day weigh ins. For many people it is that hardest part of the fight, making an agreed upon weight limit that is way below their actual weight in an attempt to gain an advantage. Except it isn’t an advantage because everybody is doing it, and the guy your fighting is doing it, so instead it becomes about who has a better weight cut. Even if you had a great fight camp, you are bigger and better, but you had a sucky weight cut, now your in trouble. Its even crazier when you consider that the athletes are more than likely already very lean THEN have to face the possibility of taking head trauma a few hours after being on deaths door after the cut.
Joe Rogan on Weight cutting
I’m a huge proponent of health and safety when it comes to the most dangerous sport in the world, and one of the most dangerous aspects of this dangerous sport is weight cutting. We’ve had guys die from weight cutting — both in college wrestling and in MMA in Brazil. It happens. Guys can die from weight cutting. I’ve seen guys that looked like they were going to die. I saw Travis Lutter when he weighed in for Anderson Silva and missed the weight. When he came back … I’ve never seen a person look worse in my life than Travis Lutter did then. He was shuffling. He couldn’t walk so he was sliding his feet across the ground. His lips were chapped, his body was completely dehydrated and his cheeks were sunken into his face, and he was going to fight the baddest motherfucker on earth in less than 24 hours.
That’s insane. The guy looks like he’s on death’s door. What if he got the flu right there and then? What if right then, when he’s feeling like shit and his immune system is depleted, somebody coughs on him? He gets some really contagious bug and boom, he dies that night. That’s not outside of the realm of possibility. When you’re engaging in something that’s already dangerous, those other dangers really should be mitigated, and I think that doing that on your own is intelligent. But if fighters don’t do it on their own, athletic commissions should monitor it.
Weight cutting is dangerous, there’s a reason they weigh in the day before the fight; it gives them a chance to rehydrate. It’s crazy. Let’s call it what it is. It’s kind of cheating, but it’s cheating that everybody does. You’re allowing someone to pretend they’re 155 pounds. Motherfucker, you’re not 155 pounds! You look at Gleison Tibau and it’s like, ‘Dude, you are not a 155-pound fighter. You’re just not. I understand that you can get onto that scale and it can show 155 pounds, but that is for the briefest window possible.’ As soon as guys get off the scale, they suck on pedialyte, they drink coconut water and do whatever they can to get fluids back into their system, and they’re fucking dying.
I just think that bringing your body to a state where it’s almost dying just a day before you’re going to fight is fucking crazy. I like it when guys get within 5 pounds or so. I’ve talked to guys who are really intelligent about their cuts, and they get within 5 pounds. Here’s a perfect example: Thiago Alves. All throughout his career he’s had problems with weight cuts. He missed the cut for the Matt Hughes fight and came in looking fucking enormous when he fought Hughes, and a lot of people thought that was a real advantage. I mean, he looked like a goddamn gorilla! Like someone came in and shaved a gorilla. But if you saw him in his last fight, a really entertaining fight against Seth Baczynski, he was on weight the day before the fight. The day before the fight he was 170 pounds and he didn’t have to cut any weight. He looked a little smaller as far as his musculature goes, but he looked great. He didn’t look weak in any way, shape or form. His technique was fantastic, his gas was great and he came off a two-year layoff and fought a war with a very tough Seth Baczynski. He had a really entertaining fight and he had the endurance. He was healthy coming into that fight because he didn’t have to deplete himself and starve himself and all of that shit.
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Why cant we all just get along
Are BJJ (Brazilian Jiu Jitsu) or Olympic Boxing tournaments any less competitive or important because there are same day weigh ins? No defiantly not, if you win a Jiu Jitsu tournament at a world level you are still the greatest grappler in that division, Martial Arts was not designed to include someones ability to drain their body of fluid.
Here is Joe Rogan on the Isssue of weight Cuts in Martial Arts
Although Joe Rogan is considered an expert not everyone is impressed by him